Podcast Special Guest, Kirra Moser

Kirra Moser
Episode 24

Grab a cup of tea and enjoy a conversation hosted by Japhet De Oliveira with guest Kirra Moser as they talk about the art of practical gift-giving, finding peace on the open road, and forgiveness as a way of life.
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"What motivates me is to max out every single day. And I think having worked in the end-of-life care space, I guess one of the benefits of working there is that I understood that those people are life-limited, and they haven't done things that they wish they had ... and I don't want to look back and regret not doing something."

Narrator:

Welcome friends to another episode of The Story & Experience Podcast. Join your host, Japhet De Oliveira, with his guest today and discover the moments that shape us, our families and communities.

Japhet De Oliveira:

Well welcome friends to another episode of The Story & Experience Podcast. This is so exciting, to have a new guest, and this has actually been recorded in England, live in England. Crazy to imagine, but I'm actually here, did follow all the rules of COVID, got quarantined. I'm vaccinated so it's a little bit easier for me, but quarantined and all stuff, but I'm excited to be able to record this particular episode here with a friend of mine. And I'm going to begin by, of course, asking your name. What is your name?

Kirra Moser:

My name is Kirra Moser.

Japhet De Oliveira:

Brilliant. Kirra, is the, does anybody ever slaughter your name or?

Kirra Moser:

No, Australian parents. Name is fairly straightforward. It is exactly as it looks like.

Japhet De Oliveira:

Yeah for some people, but for everybody it's straightforward. You sure about that?

Kirra Moser:

Yeah, unless you in Starbucks. Sometimes Starbucks get it wrong. I usually get Karen.

Japhet De Oliveira:

Karen? Ok. That's not bad. That's not bad. I've had, I've had different things with my name, but that's brilliant for you. I'm happy for you to be able to do that. So, Kirra, we're really glad you were able to join us. The way it's going to work, and for everybody who's brand new, I'm going to ask you 10 questions, very simple questions. And then we're going to dive into the rest of the questions. Kirra Is now smiling. She's not, she's not laughing, she's just smiling so, we'll see what happens. And then you're going to dive into the 11 to a hundred and you choose which ones you want. Obviously 100 is the hardest and 11 is the easiest, then you get to decide in the period of time we have where you want to go with that. So, what do you do for work, Kirra?

Kirra Moser:

I, I have a, what they call now, a portfolio career. I am originally a nurse by background, I was also a clinical educator and I have just completed a business degree, business masters. So I'm doing a bit of everything. Plus I run a household, plus I project manage house renovations. Yeah, lots and lots of different things. I am. Multi-skilled.

Japhet De Oliveira:

Absolutely, absolutely. Innovator in the community as well, volunteer, as well as managing everything else. So super excited to write all this stuff. Maybe at little some of this stuff will come out later on as well with that. Tell me, this morning, what was the, your morning drink of choice? Is it water? Is it coffee? Is it one of those green liquid smoothies? Is it tea? What do you have?

Kirra Moser:

Oh, look. Tea is the drink to start the day.

Japhet De Oliveira:

Ok. All right. And so you had to use morning?

Kirra Moser:

Yes. Followed by coffee.

Japhet De Oliveira:

All right. Now you alluded to this, you alluded to this a little bit earlier already. You already told us where you were born. So, Australia?

Kirra Moser:

Yes.

Japhet De Oliveira:

Anywhere in particular?

Kirra Moser:

Yes. Born and bred in Brisbane, spent 26 years of my life there and then moved to England.

Japhet De Oliveira:

And gone back just several, several times right?

Kirra Moser:

Oh Yeah. Pretty much, pretty much only to see family. Came on a working holiday, still on holiday, still working.

Japhet De Oliveira:

That's fantastic. Well, I'm glad you actually did. It's great. So now when you were a kid, what did you imagine you were going to do when you grew up?

Kirra Moser:

I wanted to be a midwife. I wanted to deliver babies. That's what I wanted to do.

Japhet De Oliveira:

Really?

Kirra Moser:

Yes.

Japhet De Oliveira:

As early as back as you can remember?

Kirra Moser:

Yeah. Yeah. Always loved babies.

Japhet De Oliveira:

Wow. Wow.

Kirra Moser:

And I thought that might be quite a good job.

Japhet De Oliveira:

And how many kids do you have?

Kirra Moser:

Five.

Japhet De Oliveira:

Five? Ok. All right.

Kirra Moser:

So I didn't become a midwife. I had the babies instead of delivered them.

Japhet De Oliveira:

Amazing five kids if you met, if you've ever met them. Just super talented, super creative and credit to you, both you and your husband. I mean, brilliant, brilliant stuff inside there. Now, if you were to describe your personality, would people to say you were introvert, extrovert or?

Kirra Moser:

I think, if your listeners haven't yet worked out, I'm a bit of an extrovert.

Japhet De Oliveira:

A bit of an extrovert?

Kirra Moser:

Quite at bit of an extrovert.

Japhet De Oliveira:

All right. And then what about habits? Are you one of those early rises or-

Kirra Moser:

No.

Japhet De Oliveira:

Late night owls?

Kirra Moser:

Night owl for me, yeah. Definitely up late. Prefer to be up late. But of course, once you have children, that just messes all of that night owl habit up and you have to be up early, whether you like it or not.

Japhet De Oliveira:

So if you're a late night owl, are you talking about 8:00 PM? 9:00 PM? What's a late night hour for you? Midnight?

Kirra Moser:

Oh, night owl? No. Usually after midnight. Midnight, 1:00 AM.

Japhet De Oliveira:

And then up early as well. So you don't sleep at all?

Kirra Moser:

No, I do. Well, I try. Up early. Up for, about seven.

Japhet De Oliveira:

Ok. All right. All right. Impressive. That's good.

Kirra Moser:

I hit the seven hour sleep, sleep cycle.

Japhet De Oliveira:

All right. That's fantastic. So tell me, what's the first thing, first thought that went through your mind this morning.

Kirra Moser:

"Japh is coming for lunch. What time is he coming?"

Japhet De Oliveira:

And it was absolutely an amazing lunch, but yeah. All right so, good. Well, we could have seen, we could have seen that one coming. All right. Brilliant leadership question here for you. Are you a back seat driver or a front seat driver?

Kirra Moser:

I think it depends who you ask, actually. I think my kids would probably say I'm a backseat driver. My work colleagues would probably say I'm a front-seat.

Japhet De Oliveira:

Ok.

Kirra Moser:

But I love driving. So for me it didn't really matter.

Japhet De Oliveira:

That is true. If you don't know this about Kirra, she is an absolute car enthusiast as well and, I mean, not just one who pretends to be. Actually loves foot to, really just drive a little bit, a little bit fast, and so, but really does, is a connoisseur of cars, so.

Kirra Moser:

Absolutely.

Japhet De Oliveira:

British stuff. So we've, we've hit the first 10 questions really easy. So now it is open to you, Kirra. You get to choose between 11 and 100 and a where you would like to go and we'll, we'll go along.

Kirra Moser:

Ok. Let's start with question 11.

Japhet De Oliveira:

Question 11? All Right. Tell us about the most adventurous food or meal you've ever eaten.

Kirra Moser:

Wow. Ok. So we love food. We love all sorts of foods from, from everything to everything. The most adventurous? It's probably not that exciting, actually. I'm willing to try anything. It's probably sitting around octopus or calamari, that's probably as adventure as is, which isn't very adventurous.

Japhet De Oliveira:

Ok. Ok.

Kirra Moser:

Yeah, that's probably... I, I don't think I can quite bring myself to try snails or frog legs or crocodile [emu 00:06:46], all of those kinds of stuff, I can't quite bring myself to do that. But so yeah, it's probably, it's probably calimari.

Japhet De Oliveira:

All right. All right. Well, good for you. Well done. Courageous, I think, I think that would be the word right? After 11, where would you want to go?

Kirra Moser:

Ok. 22.

Japhet De Oliveira:

22? All right, here we go. If you could be anywhere right now, where would it be?

Kirra Moser:

The beach.

Japhet De Oliveira:

Oh. Any particular beach or just any beach?

Kirra Moser:

Probably not one in England because England beaches [inaudible 00:07:11] rubbish and they're a bit cold. So, having been brought up in Australia and being brought up on the water. Pretty much anything near water is good for me. So a beach that is warm enough to swim in and, but not too hot to be sitting on the beach in the sun, getting sunburned. So, yeah.

Japhet De Oliveira:

That's a really nice combination.

Kirra Moser:

I think so.

Japhet De Oliveira:

So you don't want the beach with lots of stones and pebbles?

Kirra Moser:

Oh no. But not too much sand either cause that just gets stuck to everything.

Japhet De Oliveira:

I'm with you, I'm with you don't worry. Good. Good. All right. Hawai may be the place then. All right.

Kirra Moser:

That sounds so good. Yeah.

Japhet De Oliveira:

Good. All right. Number ater 22.

Kirra Moser:

33.

Japhet De Oliveira:

33? All right.

Kirra Moser:

You can probably see a pattern going on here.

Japhet De Oliveira:

I can, I may be seeing a pattern coming on here. All right. Tell us about the best gift you've ever given someone else.

Kirra Moser:

Oh gosh. Ok. So the best gift that they ever gave my daughter was my, I think for her 20th birthday, was a power cable with a USB socket in it, which is the most random gift, and I'm known for giving random, pointless gifts, but they actually turned out to be really, really useful, and it is genuinely the best thing I ever bought for her, followed by a handheld vacuum cleaner. So it's the most bizarre, but it's probably the most practical gift I've ever bought for somebody without realizing I was doing it at the time.

Japhet De Oliveira:

That's fantastic. And that wasn't something that she wanted? It was just like something-

Kirra Moser:

No, it was just random. I just, I just saw it and I thought, 'oh, she'd love that. She'd think that was great'. And I was right.

Japhet De Oliveira:

Score. Well done. Lovely. All right. I wonder where you're going to go after 33.

Kirra Moser:

Should we go? Let's go 47.

Japhet De Oliveira:

47? Ok. Broke the rhythm. All right. You've just met someone, what would you want them to know about you and why?

Kirra Moser:

I would want them to know that I'm a really excitable, fun person to know, I've got a great sense of humor and I'm a great person to hang around.

Japhet De Oliveira:

True. True.

Kirra Moser:

What would I want them to know about me? Depends what they ask me. I suppose I have two different sides to me where I'm a sort of a question asker and a question answerer. So, I think when you're meeting somebody for the first time, you want to keep all your information to yourself until they ask the questions. Cause you don't really just want to just land, 'here I am'. It just seems a bit, a little bit in your face. If you just sort of say, "Hi, it's me. Here I am. Here's my, here, I'm nurse. Here, I do this, I do this, this, this, it just, I just let them ask what they want to know. And it surprised them-

Japhet De Oliveira:

Kirra is very unassuming. But, but I'll tell you this, for all our listeners, you should know this, that she is usually the center of anything good that's taking place. So if something good is taking place, if some kind of like huge project is going to happen, Kirra's, eventually we'll find out, Kirra is either the driving force behind it, or she has suddenly appeared and she was the creator behind it or, yes.

Kirra Moser:

Driving.

Japhet De Oliveira:

Driving, Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, that's good. That's good. All right, brilliant. Where do you want to go next?

Kirra Moser:

52.

Japhet De Oliveira:

52? Right. Share what motivates you?

Kirra Moser:

Ooh. Ok. I can see we're starting to get into the deeper questions now. What motivates me? I think my zest for life. I have, I recognized very early on that you've got one life and you need to max it. There's no time to waste on negative energy, nothing that's not fun if you can avoid it. And I think what motivates me is to max out every single day. And I think having worked in the end of life care space, I guess one of the benefits from working there is that you, you understand that those people are life limited and they haven't done things that they wished they had. And I thought, 'I don't ever, I don't want to look back and regret not doing something'. So that's yeah.

Japhet De Oliveira:

You are, there are other things as well that I've noticed about you is that you're a person who doesn't live in the negative space, but actually is incredibly positive. You can find, you can find an ability to be able to find something good or find positivity in most circumstances. And I was curious how you're going to answer that question. I didn't know you can pick that one, but that, that is, that is really interesting. And I think that's really true. That's really true it's fantastic. Thank you. Thank you for sharing that as well.

Kirra Moser:

It's ok.

Japhet De Oliveira:

All right. Where would you want to go for the 52?

Kirra Moser:

Ok. Let's go up to, let's bring it back to our original plan. Let's go 66.

Japhet De Oliveira:

66? All right, here we go. All right. Tell us about one of your favorite songs and what do you love about it?

Kirra Moser:

Oh, that's so hard. That's like asking what my favorite car is. You can't. That's, music is another one of my, my big loves. And that's, that's just a question that there's just too many to answer. And I spend time, I've tried to top five my favorite CDs or my favorite albums. But gosh, if I had to pull a song just off the top, and it's probably a favorite of squillions. And I think having spent most of my adult life away from Australia, I probably have to pick Down Under by Men At Work.

Japhet De Oliveira:

Really? Nice, nice.

Kirra Moser:

Just because it's a connection to home.

Japhet De Oliveira:

I'm going have, I'm going to have to Google that afterwards.

Kirra Moser:

Oh, what? Really?

Japhet De Oliveira:

I'm going to have to. I probably, when I hear it, I'm like, 'oh, I know'.

Kirra Moser:

You know it. 1980 [inaudible 00:12:59].

Japhet De Oliveira:

Our generation will get it, no worries. All right, good. All right. Where you want to go next?

Kirra Moser:

Ok. 77.

Japhet De Oliveira:

77? All right. Share one of your most cup-filling experiences with us.

Kirra Moser:

I think, I think having children is probably that, that point at which you, having had five children, five cup filling experiences, all of them slightly different. I think that that first moment when you deliver the baby and you hold it for the first time and you're suddenly met with this euphoria of having a child and actually this terrible fear of what, what you're going to have to do. You're going to have to raise this child and you're going to have to feed it and look after it and keep it alive and educated. And I think, I think that that is, for me, probably the most, probably the most important job I've been put on the earth to do. But yeah, I think, because I think there's so many emotions involved in having a baby, not just carrying the baby, but actually when it finally arrives, all of those, all of that stuff comes together in one place. And yeah, just the enormity of, of what that means to have a child.

Japhet De Oliveira:

You are, I mean, all parents, right, and yourself included are, are shaping current and future of everything to take place in this planet.

Kirra Moser:

Absolutely.

Japhet De Oliveira:

And so, it's a huge responsibility.

Kirra Moser:

It's a massive responsibility.

Japhet De Oliveira:

And it's relentless.

Kirra Moser:

It is Relentless.

Japhet De Oliveira:

It is relentless. And yet fulfilling, absolutely cup filling.

Kirra Moser:

And soul destroying at the same time.

Japhet De Oliveira:

And soul destroying at the same time, yeah. That's what the sleepless night is for. That's good. That's Good.

Kirra Moser:

Yeah. You kind of hope they pay off eventually.

Japhet De Oliveira:

You do. All right. After 77, where do you want to go?

Kirra Moser:

Ok. Let's go 84.

Japhet De Oliveira:

84? All right. Where do you go to find peace?

Kirra Moser:

I don't have time for peace. You run a household like mine, peace is a... peace is a luxury that you don't find very often. But I think probably in the car, I think, is probably where I find my most peace. And peace for me probably doesn't look like peace for everybody else. Peace for me is an open road with no speed cameras and a very big noisy engine, and a very loud radio. And that for me is probably peace.

Japhet De Oliveira:

I like that. That's beautiful. That's a beautiful picture. I can actually, I can hear it and I can see it. And that's a rare moment, but that's beautiful. I like it.

Kirra Moser:

Thanks.

Japhet De Oliveira:

Thank you. Yeah. Ok. Where do you want to go next after 84?

Kirra Moser:

Ok. Let's go 88.

Japhet De Oliveira:

88? Tell us about how your life has been different than what you had imagined.

Kirra Moser:

That's an easy one. I think when I first grew up, I, well, I saw myself just being this, this midwife, I was just going to deliver babies and I was just going to get married and I was going to have lots of babies in my own, and I was always going to be in Australia. And I ended up in the UK, quite spur of the moment, and I was only ever supposed to come for a year and I ended up just sort of staying. So, yeah. So my life didn't really turn out at all like I expected. And it's a weird thing to get to the age I am now, which is similar to you without outlining a number, you kind of look back over life and you think, 'well, actually, what did I do? And how did I end up here?'

Kirra Moser:

And yeah. Yeah, it's strange, you... Yeah, it kind of, sort of just evolved organically with no kind of strategy at all. It just kind of... Life just sort of, I just went from whatever happened next. It was kind of a bit leapfroggy and a little bit all over the place but, I don't, I don't look back and wish I'd done it differently, but I certainly looked forward. And I think, 'oh, ok. I might, I might be a bit more of a planner this time as I, as I go forward'. But yeah, that was kind of... Does that answer the question?

Japhet De Oliveira:

No, it does. It does. It does. I also wanted to let all our listeners know that if you can hear that sound of the growling and the lapping, that happens to be the dog in the house. It's just, Austin is just..

Kirra Moser:

I'm sorry, that's our French Bull dog.

Japhet De Oliveira:

He's just enjoying himself right now and... But, but otherwise, but then yeah, that's really good. That's really good. I think it's so true that we may have plans and imagine some things. It's, it's a really important point for everybody to think about. Our life plans and our reality and when we can marry those two together.

Kirra Moser:

I think, I think what I've, I like about the way life evolves organically is if you plan too much, you miss the opportunities on the side. So I've kind of always approached life with this sort of opportunism, that things will come from different spaces in different angles and surprise you. And you think that, you think they might be awful, but some of them can be the most enriching and exciting experiences that, that you would never have otherwise found yourself in. So, yeah. So I quite like the idea that, of just evolving without too much planning. I think it's a really, for me, it's a nice way to live life and just sort of expect the unexpected because actually it's, it's what makes life exciting.

Japhet De Oliveira:

You like the adventure? That's good. Yeah. That's good.

Kirra Moser:

If you can't find it, you've got to make your own.

Japhet De Oliveira:

That's fair. All right. Where you want to go next?

Kirra Moser:

91.

Japhet De Oliveira:

91? All right. Describe a time in your life when you learned about forgiveness.

Kirra Moser:

Oh gosh. Can I change the question? That's a hard one. I think forgiveness, I think, is something that you are, it's something that you're raised into. It's not something that you do. It's, it's something that you are. I think you're either sort of a forgiving type of person or you're not. And I think forgiveness, I think, it's something that's modeled by others. So the people that you were surrounded by, if they model forgiveness, I think you're more likely to be that kind of forgiving type as well. And I was lucky to have parents who were people who were very forgiving types and yeah. And I think I grew up seeing that. And I think certainly as I've got older, I've been very conscious of the people that I surround myself with. That is a trait that I want around me. And, and again, surrounding yourself with those kinds of positive traits. But forgiveness is, is one of those things that, I think it's a way of living.

Kirra Moser:

It's not a, it's not a thing. And I get very frustrated by people who hold grudges because I think it's just such a waste of energy and it's a waste of life. And if you've only got just going back to the question earlier about what motivates me. That zest for life, I just think, 'well, why would I want to waste it not forgiving somebody?' I mean, it's, I think is a quote that my husband says, he say's, "It's like poisoning somebody and you dying" or something. I can't remember what it was, but yeah, sort of. Yeah, you're not... Hang on, I've mixed all that out now. You can edit that bit out.

Japhet De Oliveira:

No I can't.

Kirra Moser:

Yeah, no, I just, I get very frustrated by people hold grudges because I think it's just such a, it's not a useful way forward and yeah. Life's too short. It's too precious and it's too precious to be caught up not forgiving people.

Japhet De Oliveira:

That's true.

Kirra Moser:

And I understand. And I guess I'm lucky that I haven't, I haven't had to forgive anybody for anything too serious or life altering, but maybe that's because that's the approach that I've chosen to take. Who knows?

Japhet De Oliveira:

Well, that's actually maybe part of your character and who you are as well, which speaks to maybe why you are part of so many things and, and move so many things and gather people together is because you can hold intention. People who maybe disagree or people who hurt each other. And I've seen this in your life that I've known you, that you have this gift to be able to do that. And, and even in the field of nursing that you have in the field of care that you, I mean, dealing with end of life as well, that, you must here have heard a lot of stories, a lot of stories, a lot of moments where people struggle with forgiveness. So I think that speaks into actually who you are.

Kirra Moser:

Yeah. And I, I think you're right about the whole end of life care space. And I think when you, I think one of the most tragic things about seeing people die is seeing the things that they haven't said. And not only for the people who've died, but the people who go on to survive and live on after. The things that they wish they'd said. And it's usually things like, "I'm sorry". And you just, yeah. It's yeah. Just how, how can you? How can you not? Why would you not?

Japhet De Oliveira:

Yeah. That's so true. That's so true. Well, that's actually really powerful. And thank you for sharing that in particular. That's really good. Where do you want to go next, Kirra?

Kirra Moser:

What was that? 90?

Japhet De Oliveira:

That was 91.

Kirra Moser:

That was 91? Ok. Let's go 95.

Japhet De Oliveira:

95? Tell us about how you see your faith and life intersecting.

Kirra Moser:

I see, I see religion and God as this sort of presence around my life that I think is always there and is always looking out for me. And I have an assurance that that's just going to be there all the time. And I expect that it's there all the time. And I get on with my life and I let them sort out, whatever they need to sort out and whatever happens, happens. And it's probably as simple as that.

Japhet De Oliveira:

Like it, I like it. Simplicity's important. It's complex but simple. That's nice.

Kirra Moser:

Yeah. Yeah. I just, yeah. I just let them get on with their job. I'll get on with mine and yeah. That's it.

Japhet De Oliveira:

Good. All right. After 95, which one to go next?

Kirra Moser:

Ok. We're going to have to count up in ones now I think. How long have we got left?

Japhet De Oliveira:

You've got time for about two, three more.

Kirra Moser:

Ok. Let's go, let's get 97.

Japhet De Oliveira:

97. All right. Tell us about a time when you did the right thing.

Kirra Moser:

I always do the right thing. I'm a nurse and I'm a good person. Again, that's the way of living. That's, you know, sometimes you sort of might sway a little bit, but I think doing the right thing is about intent, I think, more than anything else. And I think if your intent is about doing the right thing, then I think it's fine.

Japhet De Oliveira:

I like that. I like that. I think that, I think that's true. I mean, if you wake up each day and you think of your life with intent, it shapes the way that you make all your decisions. If your intent is to do good, always, it's a different motivator.

Kirra Moser:

Completely different. And it almost lets you live life on autopilot in that sense, because you think, well, if I, if I live life like this, well, everything I do well, it's, it's the right thing because I've already programmed my brain to be like that. So I can almost, I can sleep at night knowing that I didn't intentionally do the wrong thing.

Japhet De Oliveira:

Yes. That's fantastic.

Kirra Moser:

But I'm no saint, don't don't get me wrong. You asked my children. That'd be quite happy to fill you in in-depth there.

Japhet De Oliveira:

No worries. All right. Good. So, time for two last questions.

Kirra Moser:

Ok. What was that? One was 97?

Japhet De Oliveira:

That was 97.

Kirra Moser:

Ok. Ok. 99 and 100. There you go.

Japhet De Oliveira:

All right. All right. 99 then. What's this the most difficult truth you have ever told?

Kirra Moser:

I think telling somebody that they're dying. That's, that's the most awful thing to have to tell somebody. Ever.

Japhet De Oliveira:

Yeah.

Kirra Moser:

That your life is finite. And I think the younger that person is, the harder that is. And the more similar to me, the harder that is. So for a woman who's got young children, telling her that she's dying and leaving her children to live a life without her around in presence.

Japhet De Oliveira:

Yes.

Kirra Moser:

That's the most awful thing. And that's the truth, and it's the fact, and you can't change it. But the way I approach that is, well, I can't change the fact that you're dying, but I can influence the path you take to get there. And that for me is a very powerful differentiator.

Japhet De Oliveira:

Yes.

Kirra Moser:

And they're two, they're two quite separate parts and, and approaches. Yeah. I think that's probably the, that's probably the best answer I can give you to that one.

Japhet De Oliveira:

That's really good.

Kirra Moser:

Kind of spur of the moment.

Japhet De Oliveira:

Yeah, no, I appreciate that. All right. Question 100. Not everybody picks question 100, Kira. And so-

Kirra Moser:

That's ok. Life is short.

Japhet De Oliveira:

Yeah, life is short. I appreciate your courage. So here is the question 100, it's the hardest question out of the entire list. And so tell us about one question that you just don't want to answer.

Kirra Moser:

Oh, I have to find a question now?

Japhet De Oliveira:

Yeah. One that you don't want to answer.

Kirra Moser:

A question I don't want to answer.

Japhet De Oliveira:

So that I can then ask you that question.

Kirra Moser:

Ok. My son's asking for a computer.

Japhet De Oliveira:

Ok.

Kirra Moser:

So, that's the question I don't want to answer. But I think you're probably looking for something a bit deeper than that. I, I don't know that there is any question that I fear being asked and that doesn't help you for that question.

Japhet De Oliveira:

That's ok.

Kirra Moser:

But I, I consider myself kind of an open enough person to say, "well, you can pretty much ask me anything you like, and I will tell you the answer", or certainly what I think at the time. But I, honestly, I don't, I don't think that deeply, I just take a day at a time and what comes, comes. And if I get faced with a difficult question, then I'll just answer it. I don't, oh sorry, that's not a great answer to that question.

Japhet De Oliveira:

That's ok. No, that's ok.

Kirra Moser:

But you're right. It is a hard question and I will think about it.

Japhet De Oliveira:

Yeah.

Kirra Moser:

Am I allowed to pause for a little bit and just think about?

Japhet De Oliveira:

You are. You are.

Kirra Moser:

Ok. Is there a question? Just read the question for me again, question 100.

Japhet De Oliveira:

Question 100. Tell us about one question that you just don't want to answer.

Kirra Moser:

I don't know that I can think of one.

Japhet De Oliveira:

Ok.

Kirra Moser:

There's nothing, at the moment, that I can think of right now that I wouldn't have an answer for.

Japhet De Oliveira:

That's good.

Kirra Moser:

I'm quite verbose as you probably will tell. I've always got something to say. Yeah I, yeah. There's nothing. I'm not sure that there's anything.

Japhet De Oliveira:

Well, and that, that speaks also, it speaks also to who you are and the open book and, and that's fine. And that's actually great. And it's wonderful as well. So, that's ok.

Kirra Moser:

That's ok?

Japhet De Oliveira:

That's ok. That's actually beautiful. I want to say thank you for taking the time to be honest and to share your stories and experiences with us, Kirra. And I want to encourage everybody who's listening to, to remember this, that everybody has a story, an experience that actually shapes not only your own life, but shapes other lives as well, and encourage you to share those ask good questions of each other, share the honest truth with each other, be courageous. If you do, I actually think you're going to live God's love, you can live the mission out in your life and I think you will transform the world and make it a better place.

Kirra Moser:

Definitely. And I think as a role, as a parent, that you've got that responsibility to raise the next generation to do the same thing.

Japhet De Oliveira:

Indeed, good thought. Thank you so much.

Kirra Moser:

Thank you.

Narrator:

Thank you for joining us for The Story & Experience Podcast. We invite you to read, watch and submit your story and experience at adventisthealth.org/story. The Story & Experience Podcast was brought to you by Adventist Health for the Office of Culture.